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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby dyn » Sun Aug 19, 2012 20:19 UTC

fallout wrote:I'm presently using Bit Torrent. But after reading this, I'm going to stop using it. Along with the 'tracking' issue.
I discovered that the program uses an external 'Content Delivery System' ( Limelight Networks ) that they pay for.
I'm not impressed with that companies "client list' that use this 'service'.

My question is, is there a torrent program that doesn't use any kind of 'external service' to acquire their content for the user.
And, can someone provide alternatives ie: newsgroups, usenets or any other alternative to get content.

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I always recommended µTorrent, however last versions may have ads, which are now reduced a lot after users revolt. Perhaps some older µTorrent version from http://www.oldapps.com/utorrent.php -- nice site, they have them all, from 1.x! I was using 1.6.1 and 2.0.4 for months, still have them archived, both are ad-free and without any surprises. If anyone needs them i can upload, otherwise they are not hard to find since app is very popular.
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby dyn » Mon Aug 20, 2012 03:39 UTC

Top 10 uTorrent Alternatives
For tens of millions of BitTorrent users, uTorrent is the immediate client of choice. However, a recent decision by its creators to include adware in the client prompted some users to question their loyalty to the product. After numerous reader requests for an overview of other BitTorrent clients, here is a rundown of ten possible alternatives.
http://torrentfreak.com/top-10-utorrent-alternatives-120819/
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby fallout » Mon Aug 20, 2012 14:23 UTC

Thankyou dyn. I've installed 1.6.1 and it uses it's own 'internal content service'. Much thanks as well for directing me and
anyone else that wants an alternative, to BitTorrent or even uTorrent. The list you provided supplied me with what l've been
looking for ie: Deluge. It's simple, yet effective. I'll give it some time to see if these 'alternatives' were worth the wait.

Again, thankyou :D
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby SD » Mon Aug 20, 2012 16:51 UTC

I'm not really sure what you guys are talking about here, I use utorrent (up to date) and there are no ads. At all. Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick here?
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby dyn » Mon Aug 20, 2012 21:01 UTC

Not sure, pre-3.0 µTorrent is pretty secure and private. Also 3.0 only had ratings/comments added, not real ads, more info:
http://torrentfreak.com/where-are-utorrents-comments-and-ratings-stored-110427/

Biggest problem is recent decision to make it ad-supported, which caused a lot of people to revolt against it and they made it optional now. Older µT is safe, more or less. :-D
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby AG » Tue Aug 21, 2012 18:22 UTC

http://www.transmissionbt.com/

i've used this for a few years now

edit: n/m thought there was a windows port.
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby SD » Tue Mar 26, 2013 13:10 UTC

They've blocked kat.ph now too...... the UK really is a cool place to be.
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby dyn » Tue Mar 26, 2013 18:18 UTC

Yes, it's hard to believe. Here we pirate stuff all the time, nobody gives a shit, yet i see people form the US are getting warning letters about stuff they downloaded. Information must be free. And if anything Hollywood should pay pirates for spreading their propaganda anyway. :-D

TPB alternate url: https://labaia.ws/ ... For KAT i need to check.
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby dyn » Tue Mar 26, 2013 18:22 UTC

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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby dyn » Tue Mar 26, 2013 18:35 UTC

Seriously, those incompetent bastards should fix your line quality first, or stop cramming so many people on outdated/slow hardware. Here they were threatened with EU intervention before they let go of their monopoly. Overselling was minimal, but there were other problems, like not allowing other companies to compete properly. You need to be pain in the ass for them, only then they will move. For example, if they are selling 8 mbit and you get 2 mbit -- threaten to sue them, it is illegal to sell something you can't provide. Call BBB (not sure what's UK name for it) etc. If they will censor access then people should also be bastards in return!

That's one idea of 'something to do', i am sure people are frustrated over this and can be organized somehow to strike them back.



Update: Sent something to 20.000+ people over various channels, mainly info on proxies.
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby SD » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:46 UTC

This is the speed I'm downloading at. Been trying to get this since yesterday morning :/
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby dyn » Wed Mar 27, 2013 14:34 UTC

Disable uTP: http://www.guidingtech.com/4094/disable-utp-utorrent-bittorrent-bandwidth/
Then restart uTorrent, or at least stop+start that active torrent.

And also try one of these or both:
http://deluge-torrent.org/
http://www.qbittorrent.org/ (or even better latest alpha: http://qbforums.shiki.hu/index.php?board=14.0)
You can have all 3 installed.
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby fallout » Sun Mar 31, 2013 16:21 UTC

I've done some investigating. When it comes to downloading torrents, keep inmind the number of 'Seeds' and 'Peers'.
The 'health' of the torrent shouldn't be the deciding factor when it comes to the speed of the download. What you
should be concerned about is, the average 'upload' speed of those 'clients'. Unlike the insane bandwidth that most
enjoy in Europe, here in North America, the average 'upload' speed which is your download speed, is 834 kbps.
And, the majority of the customer's of ISP's are infact 'capped' at a certain limit when it comes to bandwidth.
Take me for instance. I'm capped at 60 gig's a month. So I have to be careful what and how many torrents I can
get. Plus, your ISP monitor's everyone's traffic in a way that if they detect an above average load on the 'node',
they can trace which user is doing it and 'throttle' that connection to avoid any unessessary inconvienence to the
rest of their customer's. I'm not saying this is what could be happening to you SD but, there are ways to get
around this. I discovered that both the torrent program, and the torrent itself, can be set to limit the 'upload' to a
specific limit as to not take up to much of the bandwidth and allow more downloading instead of uploading.

Go into your P2P client, go to the settings and look for the default numbers for both Downloading and Uploading.
In there, you can set your 'upload' to 1. Meaning, the most that you'll upload is 1 kb, leaving more for downloading.
Plus, every torrent can be set to only allow 1 'upload slot' so that it will limit the amount that want the files that you
have. To best control this, in the General section of uTorrent, you can set it to 'Don't Start Torrent's Automaticlly'.
In the Properties of the torrent, you can set it to those settings as well. Keep inmind, I'm probably not the only one
that does this. :evil2: If you have been following this thread, you will have seen the Reply that esplains how not
to be tracked. Give that a read, and try that too.

At least try these and see if it improves at all. :yes:
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby dyn » Mon Apr 01, 2013 06:33 UTC

Yes, i agree, there are ways to go around that and at same time i absolutely HATE it when they limit access to people in any way for whatever reason they deem important. Information is not their property, copyright laws should be about acts of copying on a large scale (criminal gangs, etc.), but not influencing information exchange or persecuting individuals for downloading a few files. There are MANY legit uses for all technologies which are limited for that stupid reason and in the end this will backfire to all those greedy MPAA/RIAA/etc. idiots who are pushing it too far.

Think about it, today they are doing packet inspection for copyrighted crap, tomorrow they will do it for using inappropriate language etc. This must stop, no discussion around it.

Another way to measure real line speed is multi-threaded download, do a few tests, best would be to download some big Linux DVD, since those are hosted on fast servers and usually they have spare bandwidth. For this to work you need a download manager like Free Download Manager and then get some distro site from http://distrowatch.com/ and download anything popular (there is a table on the right with links).

For uTorrent a lot of people experienced better speeds with uTP disabled. Info: http://www.guidingtech.com/4094/disable-utp-utorrent-bittorrent-bandwidth/
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Re: UK ISPS BLOCK THE PIRATE BAY

Postby fallout » Mon Apr 01, 2013 13:38 UTC

I'm in total agreement with dyn. By the time a torrent ( movie, game, application ) hits the Internet, the revenue that the
MPAA/RIAA/etc, and anyone deems illegal has already been made. Especially those that are 1 year or more old.
But as far as blocking users, where are we, in China??? No.


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