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Re: US Ambassador KILLED following Anti-Islam Video

Postby dyn » Wed Sep 19, 2012 16:46 UTC

craij wrote:
dyn wrote:"Islam and political Zionism mutually destroy each other."

Again, funny as usual.

I'm not the cynic for the sake of being argumentative, I swear... I just take issue with "true believers." Which is to say pretty much anyone that is convinced that they "know" what the hell is going on or needs to happen. There is quite possibly a small group of elite that control much of our global economy (read: corporate terrorists) yet the nature of chaos suggests their visions too would be undermined.


They said that long ago and it seems, at least from events unfolding in the Middle-East someone is taking them seriously. Of course you can laugh and talk about chaos theory, but in the end, elites will force poor people to die for them, as usual. Now here is a thing -- what if some people decided to just kill some of them instead of theorizing or laughing cluelessly about it -- what do you think it would happen? Or if people turn off TVs for a week and don't give a fuck about them anymore. After all who can predict what will happen, sometimes you might be right too. However most of the time people behave in predictable & conformist ways, with groups of people being especially dumb and easy to manipulate.
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Re: US Ambassador KILLED following Anti-Islam Video

Postby dyn » Wed Sep 19, 2012 16:59 UTC

craij wrote:
dyn wrote:Well, about your "sine wave" (cyclical theory of sort), yes in the Universe you have cycles of different types, however you also have free will to create a rift or two. I pasted stuff from Wiki coz it is nice example of how things work out.

Not truly sine, of course, there is too much fluctuation (much like brain waves) but you get the idea. Sometimes the death and despair lasts long periods (bottle-necking large populations [shrinking our gene pool]) and sometimes only the blink of an eye (Yen drops in value for a week or corn yields wiped out by foul weather). "How things work out" is yet to be understood, we are only guessing at this point in human history. There is no useful pattern, only continued mistakes and failures by flawed systems.

Stop believing that anyone has a clue and find a better way.


This is when you look at the Universe in materialistic way determined by our current science. Of course you will see a lot of chaos which is not that chaotic once you can see beyond that. But this goes light-years beyond Islam and religious intolerance which this thread was initially about. Also you have certain models which can help you with that, predicting what will happen, or basic logic, like -- limited land resources, oppressive gov/religion, then black death comes and you have lots of dead people, which means more land/resources for others and greater prosperity, less oppressive religion because people started to doubt them (ie. "why is God punishing us?"), etc. All this combined led to Renaissance, so in a way Black Death was a good thing, although many people died which is tragic, of course.

Speaking of religion, intolerance is a must if you want idea-virus to survive and propagate. It is a defense mechanism, without it Islam would be destroyed long ago, as well as other religions. Look at Christianity today, they are way more tolerant ... and nearly extinct. Every atheist can make fun of them, every newspaper can publish anything they like against the Church as long as they are politically correct.
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Re: US Ambassador KILLED following Anti-Islam Video

Postby dyn » Wed Sep 19, 2012 17:16 UTC

Hey, all this serious talk aside, this news item perhaps you will like:
The end of the end? St. Pete legislature seeks ban on ‘apocalyptic propaganda’
Published: 19 September, 2012, 18:54
http://rt.com/politics/pete-seeks-apocalyptic-propaganda-493/
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Re: US Ambassador KILLED following Anti-Islam Video

Postby craij » Wed Sep 19, 2012 20:56 UTC

:lol:
that's funny
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Re: US Ambassador KILLED following Anti-Islam Video

Postby craij » Wed Sep 19, 2012 20:57 UTC

dyn wrote:Speaking of religion, intolerance is a must if you want idea-virus to survive and propagate. It is a defense mechanism, without it Islam would be destroyed long ago, as well as other religions. Look at Christianity today, they are way more tolerant ... and nearly extinct. Every atheist can make fun of them, every newspaper can publish anything they like against the Church as long as they are politically correct.

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Re: US Ambassador KILLED following Anti-Islam Video

Postby dyn » Thu Sep 20, 2012 20:57 UTC

SD, check this:
Pakistani retailer faces blasphemy charges after not joining film protest
http://rt.com/news/pakistani-businessman-blasphemy-protest-537/

Pakistani man accused of blasphemy for not protesting film
http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/pakistani-man-accused-of-blasphemy-for-not-protesting-film-1.962187

Crazy... Blasphemy in Pakistan means life in prison or death sentence. The latter is much better than being locked up in some hellhole over there.
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Re: US Ambassador KILLED following Anti-Islam Video

Postby SD » Fri Sep 21, 2012 16:07 UTC

Ha, yes! I guess they think not joining them in their stupid uproar over nothing equates to slandering the magic sky wizard. People seriously need to grow up and grow out of this stupid shit. The problem is religions aren't just "harmless nonsense" - they're dangerous nonsense. These people are killing other people over some magic fairy which almost certainly doesn't even exist.
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