Anti-Camp for CTF Server.

[rain.]

Okay, I know everyone is probably going to be against this suggestion but there are too many grapple campers in CTF or just regular ones. I'm suggesting that you turn on anti-camp like the one in FFA where after about 20 seconds your ammo decreases rapidly. I know some people call it strategy,game,defense, but ultimately it's camping.

[SD]

The only way to stop players camping with the grapple is to take it away, would you like us to take it away?

[DarthVandreadXY]

What?! are you crazy?
to start your new recently that you do not know much of what is Ctf (I say by how "vogon" which is a different mode) I think and say that the CTF is fine like this now ... there is no problem with anyone alone with you it's perhaps sometimes I have "jealousy" that I can win that easy and I say when I play 1vs1 as you say others are called strategy, tactics, etc etc ... but because you're the only unhappy with all this we have to change before doing something (and I Ctf I want both of those two years that have passed) because we need the opion of others and dislike of others outside the Ctf Vogon Vogon CTF is not without that hook and from there everything is okay ... tube and I endured the loss of sticky grenades on complaints of some who do not like playing know (at most I could stand it) but now your most recent property back to the server to say it nice bah Fasti not bad but not that others think and say about it too

In summary!: Do nothing, leave everything as is ... The CTF is fine like this right now do not make any changes, I say I an expert on Vogon Ctf (hehe I think I Deserves expert that this time 2 years playing that they are 2 years:) )


para empezar tu que eres recien nuevo, no sabes tanto de lo que es Ctf (lo digo por el modo "vogon" que es una modalidad distinta) yo opino y digo que el Ctf esta bien como esta ahora... no hay ningun problema con nadie solo con tigo que quisas aveces me tienes "envidia" de que no me puedes ganar asi de facil y lo digo cuando juego 1vs1 como tu dices otros los llaman estrategia, tacticas, etc etc... pero por que tu eres el unico inconforme con todo esto lo tengan que cambiar antes de hacer algo por el estilo (y yo que quiero tanto al Ctf de estos dos años que han pasado) pues necesitamos la opion de otros y disgusto de otros aparte el Vogon Ctf no es VOGON CTF sin esa hook y de ahi todo esta bien... y yo tube que soportar la perdida de las granadas pegajosas por queja de algunos que no saven como jugar (a lo mucho pude soportar eso) pero ahora bienes tu casi recien nuevo al este lindo servidor a decir eso bah no fasties pero no esta mal que otros opinen y tambien que dicen al respecto
En resumen!: No hagan nada, dejen todo como esta... El Ctf esta bien como esta ahora mismo no hagan ningun cambio, lo digo yo un experto en Vogon Ctf (hehe creo que me meresco eso de experto por esta vez 2 años jugando eso pues son 2 años )

[SD]

I wish you'd find a different translator or something.

[DarthVandreadXY]

I just want to say is that you make no changes to the server, this all right now is ok!(I think the more I said to my camper that I am not, and also one of my colleagues) I have a lot of time there and I mention this time I removed the sticky grenades that you believe to be spam in some way but the other has nothing to do with Bonelli's, apart from the Ctf Ctf not if you remove the hook or you make some other modification now everything is very well to come one and that way you do not like everything you want to change things ... and there is a change should not only seek views of all but also to enter and see if that's camper or camper ... (I mean analyze, discuss strategies and tell if it is not Bonelli) clearly do not want to reveal some of my strategies but I can see them there is nothing ....

[AG]

The only way to stop players camping with the grapple is to take it away, would you like us to take it away?

we can take the grapple away, reduce ammo after a period, or lower the grapple hang-time.

as has been discussed in a few other threads though, campers will always find a way to camp. although i haven't played ctf more than a time or two, it's the same issue as has been discussed before -- campers are making themselves vulnerable. once it is expected, they should be shot.

the only camping i don't tolerate lightly is spawn camping. players deserve a chance to at least get into the game.

[DarthVandreadXY]

To get started a long time and nothing is said of the CTF because everything is OK ... now to say that it is entering Bonelli and I'll make what is desmostracion play CTF and summer really is not ... I do not say me, if not by others who also pe seen, apart from my fellow Clan Vep ... Keep in mind that is Vogon Vogon Ctf Ctf but with the hook without the hook is not Vogon Ctf (while assigned to that speed the hook) and all weapons are fine ... funny thing is clearly not an expert who opened this discucion it does not save the excitement of playing in hard mode osea this "Bonelli" is also part of what is Vogon in other words Vogon Ctf Ctf Ctf is not an ordinary are characterize it that is what gives life, life energy! enjoyment as they have played very well know ... is only thing that come to play and see what I say and as I said I myself do a demo (because of my always complain Bonelli) to see that Bonelli's not good ... add anything else you should do something administrators do not even they themselves have come to play last and now know (live) what is Vogon Ctf to have a better opinion ...

Para empesar desde hace mucho tiempo que ya no se dice nada del Ctf porque todo esta bien...ahora para decir que es campeo entren y yo mismo hare la desmostracion de lo que es jugar realmente Ctf y veran que no lo es... no lo digo por mi si no por otros que tambien eh visto, aparte de mis colegas del Clan Vep...Tengan en cuenta que Vogon Ctf es Vogon Ctf pero con la hook sin la hook no es Vogon Ctf (respetando esa velocidad asignada a la hook) y todas las armas estan bien...Lo divertido claro que no es un experto quien abrio esta discucion pues no save lo excitante que es jugar en el modo dificil osea eso de "campeo" es tambien parte de lo que es Vogon Ctf en otras palabras Vogon Ctf no es un Ctf comun y corriente se caracterisa por eso eso es lo que le da vida, energia vida! goze como los que han jugado saben muy bien... solo es cosa que entren a jugar y veran lo que les digo y como dije pues yo mismo hago un demo (ya que de mi siempre se quejan de campeo) para que vean que no es campeo bueno... algo mas que agregar no deben hacer algo los administradores si ni siquiera ellos mismo han entrado a jugar ahora ultimo y saber (vivir) lo que es Vogon Ctf para que tengan una mejor opinion...

[AG]

is there anyone out there with occasional free time who could volunteer as interpreter on the forum?

[AG]

To get started a long time and nothing is said of the CTF because everything is OK ... now to say that it is entering Bonelli and I'll make what is desmostracion play CTF and summer really is not ... I do not say me, if not by others who also pe seen, apart from my fellow Clan Vep ... Keep in mind that is Vogon Vogon Ctf Ctf but with the hook without the hook is not Vogon Ctf (while assigned to that speed the hook) and all weapons are fine ... funny thing is clearly not an expert who opened this discucion it does not save the excitement of playing in hard mode osea this "Bonelli" is also part of what is Vogon in other words Vogon Ctf Ctf Ctf is not an ordinary are characterize it that is what gives life, life energy! enjoyment as they have played very well know ... is only thing that come to play and see what I say and as I said I myself do a demo (because of my always complain Bonelli) to see that Bonelli's not good ... add anything else you should do something administrators do not even they themselves have come to play last and now know (live) what is Vogon Ctf to have a better opinion

van, i can only half read this right now, but while a player may not be a "vogon expert" they still can make suggestions. maybe it will happen, maybe not. depends on if it would improve the game for everyone else or if things are just plain getting stale.

[rain.]

I'm not even brand-new to this server like Van says he obviously is judging something he doesn't even know and I have actually probably played longer than he has, just under different names. And I wasn't trying to say get rid of grapple its not really the grapple that effects camping its the ammo in most situations and once they run out of ammo = no chance.

[AG]

I'm not even brand-new to this server like Van says he obviously is judging something he doesn't even know and I have actually probably played longer than he has, just under different names.

oh yeah.

guess the campers are having fun in their own way, huh?

[SD]

I'm not even brand-new to this server like Van says he obviously is judging something he doesn't even know and I have actually probably played longer than he has, just under different names.

oh yeah.

guess the campers are having fun in their own way, huh?

Ding!

I'm not even reading Vandreads posts any more, I can't be bothered spending the time trying to understand each and every sentence, if he can't be bothered to find a half decent translator, or learn a bit of English (perish the thought....) then BONELLI (whatever that is) to the self proclaimed CTF EXPERT!

[Borat Obomba]

I'm not even brand-new to this server like Van says he obviously is judging something he doesn't even know and I have actually probably played longer than he has, just under different names.

oh yeah.

guess the campers are having fun in their own way, huh?

Snap!

/thread

ps... BONELLI BONELLI BONELLI!

[sp.1]

Why is this ever a discusion, If you start to make changes for some then you have to make changes for others, What if I dont like your style of play, What ever that may be. Then they ban your style of play, Next thing you know there will be a rule book to tell you how you have to play, Learn to adapt, Be better than the rest. Stop tring to make the world easy for yourself. Everyone is different, and so is there play style.

Rain your a friend but this is the subject to me that should DIE.

[Shishisenkou]

Edit: Yea it's a week old or so topic but wow.

Our style of fun isn't sit there camp with quad the entire time. We mess around with our own things. And if we do camp, it's because we're waiting for each other to get to the same spot to fool around.

And it's not always "expected". Once they camp at a spot and kill someone, they quickly move to another spot and camp there. She wasn't saying TAKE OUT THE GRAPPLE OH MY GOD, but it is kind of ridiculous when you have 1 to 2 people spamming one area repeatedly or not even moving at all and just blowing up everything with quad usually. There's almost no chance of even getting anywhere unless you magically rail them through a wall which is pretty much doubtful.

[AG]

Our style of fun isn't sit there camp with quad the entire time. We mess around with our own things. And if we do camp, it's because we're waiting for each other to get to the same spot to fool around.

you've reiterated my point.

And it's not always "expected". Once they camp at a spot and kill someone, they quickly move to another spot and camp there. She wasn't saying TAKE OUT THE GRAPPLE OH MY GOD, but it is kind of ridiculous when you have 1 to 2 people spamming one area repeatedly or not even moving at all and just blowing up everything with quad usually. There's almost no chance of even getting anywhere unless you magically rail them through a wall which is pretty much doubtful.

slingshot into the area and rail the bright blue blob?