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old comp

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 14:04 UTC
by 1UnRaTeD1
i replaced a hdd to the comp im going to use specificly for 98se and now dat it has a good hdd when it trys to boot windows xp used in other system it came from. it wont load logo it just restarts and restarts everytime. i dunno but i never had dat problem

alittle help would be nice :ohno:

im sure it has nothing to do with os since the machine has enough ram and cpu speed for it. the Mboard came from a gateway machine

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 15:04 UTC
by Infinity
Its because of the chipset driver difference on your PC. Its fairly common, if ur just gonna wipe it and reload it, just boot up to 98 and format it. But for some reason if your wanted XP to load. You'll have to pop in a XP cd and do a repair on the OS.

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 17:22 UTC
by 1UnRaTeD1
hmm..but shouldnt it still boot anyway with missing drivers? with errors and encountering problems atleast ill know dat the comp is good and i think the cd drive is messed up :( dats why i wanted to see if it will boot atleast from existing xp installed from other comp

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 18:07 UTC
by Infinity
Nope, if the chipset is super different it wont work because drivers also effect registry. If u get corruptions or errors in registry it will not allow you to boot up. Ex: something like ATI to Nvidia or Intel to AMD. U dont happen to just have a old CDrom laying around would u?

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 00:00 UTC
by 1UnRaTeD1
naw well i do off my backup computer good 1 to.. running xp and had 2.4ghz ht with 1 gig ram. but yea its only way.. now using off my backup comp. but thanks for the info infinity you were helpful :) I will use backup cdrom off my backup comp then and try from there

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 04:39 UTC
by Tripredacus
Windows 98 is not so well at moving between motherboards. Only once have I gotten a 98 drive to like a new board. And there are limitations for 98, specifically RAM size. Windows XP is even more picky about drivers. It is a copy protection mechanism.

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 16:47 UTC
by 1UnRaTeD1
good news. i got 98se installed and working with backup cdrom drive..problem is dat this old system was running xp and most drivers are all the way back to 2k and if winME :( ill have to do some searching for soundcard drivers and IGP drivers atleast.

any info on dat would be nice. here's the comp model gateway E-1800 its at 1.2ghz factory cpu wich i will replace with 800mhz cpu socket 370. im pretty sure it can go back to maybe 600mhz but no lower

now it has 256mb ram more than enough for anything 20gig hdd temp for now until apoc sends his 40gig. and voodoo 2 12mb vid card for oldgames like HL Q1 :) certain ones dat windows vista or 7 dont like running at all or compatbility mode works half the time.. and no i dont like dosbox im not good at commands :(

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 22:19 UTC
by Infinity
Glad to know you got it working bud!

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 22:56 UTC
by Xynthia
@1UnRaTeD1

I asked my best friend (google) for drivers for your old computer, and i think i found the good website !

Here ==> http://www.mpcdrivers.com/apps/filelistE1800.html

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 23:38 UTC
by 1UnRaTeD1
nice nice very nice thank you very much...i thought for a sec there i would have to use up all pci slots. lol sound display and so on
drivers are almost hard to find since 2001 9 years ago. and ya know what they do once theres no more use for it. but some still keep it around just incase

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 23:48 UTC
by dyn
For old PCs you can get all drivers automatically installed with driver packs from http://driverpacks.net/.

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 23:49 UTC
by 1UnRaTeD1
thank you all for your help and support on my powerful p3 800mhz :)

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 06:14 UTC
by Tripredacus
dyn wrote:For old PCs you can get all drivers automatically installed with driver packs from http://driverpacks.net/.


I agree. This is an excellent site. They help out well with the "wtf is this HwID" type driver request.

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 22:17 UTC
by 1UnRaTeD1
quick question. what is the latest browser used for 98 and still able to browse internet without any issues? i was thinking firefox but im not sure if ie 6+ higher is able to install. i hooked my friend up with a 98se machine i got for free so that he can use it for misc stuff..if he gets errors from sites or viruses he dont have to worry cause hes using 98 machine :) hes also into linux and i know some linux can run on it

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:27 UTC
by dyn
http://www.opera.com/ is #1 for older systems. Even most recent versions can run there and you have rock solid stable browser.
There is also a portable USB edition here: http://www.opera-usb.com/operausben.htm which i highly recommend, for older and new PCs.

For blocking ads, which is especially useful on w98 where every resource counts, try this:
http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/opera/ (either "Main list" or "With Stat/Tracking Sites")

Re: old comp

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 18:55 UTC
by 1UnRaTeD1
thanks dyn for the info u gave me :) i will do that