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BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby DEAN SINSTROM » Sun Jan 31, 2010 02:31 UTC

That's crazy... I didn't know the alt fire on the BFG was a grapple when you shoot at the ground.
How long has that been like that?
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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby CROSs » Sun Jan 31, 2010 07:23 UTC

I was trippin on that too, but i do love the bfg pass through rail! w00t!!! I <3 rail!


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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby AG » Mon Feb 01, 2010 18:49 UTC

whoah that's weird. is it supposed to do that?
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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby IriDeck » Tue Feb 02, 2010 03:04 UTC

This is Vogon. Nothing is unplanned. Enjoy your braintwister.
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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby dyn » Tue Feb 02, 2010 15:42 UTC

DS, you probably meant Rail not grapple.
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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby AG » Tue Feb 02, 2010 18:23 UTC

dyn wrote:DS, you probably meant Rail not grapple.

switch to the bfg/rail combo currently on ffa then shoot the floor.

you get thrown insanely fast across the map.
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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby DEAN SINSTROM » Wed Feb 03, 2010 00:15 UTC

AG wrote:...shoot the floor.
you get thrown insanely fast across the map.


Is it pulling you down, or flinging you somewhere else on the map?
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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby AG » Wed Feb 03, 2010 00:45 UTC

DEAN SINSTROM wrote:
AG wrote:...shoot the floor.
you get thrown insanely fast across the map.


Is it pulling you down, or flinging you somewhere else on the map?

i guess both -- i didn't test it for long.
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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby DEAN SINSTROM » Wed Feb 03, 2010 01:12 UTC

Here's a couple of demos that show you what I am seeing.

This was the first demo I made, right before I posted this thread. (you'll need dsvogon1_beta1.pk3 installed to view demo)
http://tim.stasis.org/www-sites/tsan/q3a/demos/weird_grapple_bfg1.dm_68
There's no mistaking what's happening in this demo

The 2nd one is a lot less obvious when it happens... and it's very sporadic. (AG said it wasn't even happening to him anymore) it almost looks like I am teleporting short distances when it happens.
http://tim.stasis.org/www-sites/tsan/q3a/demos/weird_grapple_bfg2.dm_68

I'm trying to wrap my head around how the BFG alt fire thingy works. :P
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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby DEAN SINSTROM » Wed Feb 03, 2010 01:18 UTC

As for the non-alt BFG/RAIL combo... I like it. I could be wrong here, but it looks like the rail is traveling the same speed as the BFG... A direct hit with the BFG would kill you anyways, sort of making the rail hit redundant.
If that is the case, would it be possible to make the rail travel as fast as normal (ie. instant), then have the slower traveling BFG hit it's target afterward?
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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby DEAN SINSTROM » Wed Feb 03, 2010 02:18 UTC

Here's a video of it.
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Beepa Fraps is awesome! So easy for making a decent Q3A video!
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Re: BFG alt fire grapple?

Postby dyn » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:50 UTC

Yes, most interesting. I happens with 2-3 way BFG + bfgRail + AltFire only. I set BFG to single (normal) mode and everything else is the same, so test it a bit more and tell me if it happens again. It should be like this: Rail with BFG is pass-thru, while AltFire produces explosion effect, just like normal Rail.

In your case it pulled you away with Rail speed, which is extremely fast -- faster than any grapple. It's easiest to recreate this effect when bouncing. It can pull you sideways as well, not only to the ground.
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