Yourself, Forgotten One, and Zipp0

[frag_bait]

Using extremely vulgar and racist language and telling people to STFU

[fallout]

Tks frag. I'll monitor them from now on.

[frag_bait]

Thanks. Dont mean to sound like a whiny tattletale, I swear like an angry sailor all day everyday, but using racist language crosses the line with me. I'll try to screen shot them if it happens again.

[Zipp0]

Frag,

What on earth are you talking about????? I did NOT say anything racist or vulgar. That is ludicrous. The other two were glitching/cheating and I called them out while spectating and that was it!!!!

Fallout - I will admit I can be over the top sometimes, but I have been making a real effort to STFU. Not sure if frag has some issue with me but this is SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

Zipp0

[Zipp0]

Also, I am sure there are others who will attest that I NEVER say anything racist - EVER. This really has me angry/upset. I have donated before and was considering doing so again, but this sort of nonsense is a real turn-off.

[dyn]

Also, I am sure there are others who will attest that I NEVER say anything racist - EVER. This really has me angry/upset. I have donated before and was considering doing so again, but this sort of nonsense is a real turn-off.

I understand and let me assure you we respect free speech - anything legal in the US is OK. Often players vent off and not everything is to be taken seriously, also what someone perceives as racist may be perfectly OK in some other region and culture. So the rules are simple - legal in the US = OK. Players can get banned for excessive spam, key-bind spam or real-life threats - if anyone gets banned merely for speech, let me know. Admins should know that too.

[frag_bait]

Frag,

What on earth are you talking about????? I did NOT say anything racist or vulgar. That is ludicrous. The other two were glitching/cheating and I called them out while spectating and that was it!!!!

Fallout - I will admit I can be over the top sometimes, but I have been making a real effort to STFU. Not sure if frag has some issue with me but this is SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

Zipp0

You dropped the f bomb on a couple of occasions. I dont personally have a problem with that, and if the mods are cool with it, I offer my apologies.

[Zipp0]

First of all... I really don't think so. I wouldn't take the time to type that during a game. The other two were throwing around the N word. Not me. Before you malign my character in public, I suggest you have some proof. /rant

[GR1T]

My 2 cents...

I've played with Zipp0 a lot and always had a great time. He's cool as far as I'm concerned, but I wasn't there when this supposedly happened.

[frag_bait]

My 2 cents...

I've played with Zipp0 a lot and always had a great time. He's cool as far as I'm concerned, but I wasn't there when this supposedly happened.

I agree, Zipp0 is a good player and I've never had a problem with him and still do not. Dyn has stated that what is legal in the US is ok here, therefore I rescind my complaint about Zipp0.

Further, I was wrong to complain about him and I apologize to Zipp0 and hope that he can forgive me. Sorry man.

[SD]

Nice piece of forum etiquette there, having the capacity to apologise for a mistake is rare these days. I was admin here years ago, for a long time, a very active contributor and unless things have changed (which I'm confident is not the case, especially reading dyn's post) then this venue does support free speech and unless you're cheating you have to try pretty fucking hard to get banned/moderated here.

[Zipp0]

My 2 cents...

I've played with Zipp0 a lot and always had a great time. He's cool as far as I'm concerned, but I wasn't there when this supposedly happened.

I agree, Zipp0 is a good player and I've never had a problem with him and still do not. Dyn has stated that what is legal in the US is ok here, therefore I rescind my complaint about Zipp0.

Further, I was wrong to complain about him and I apologize to Zipp0 and hope that he can forgive me. Sorry man.

Frag - Thanks for being big about this. Just a misunderstanding I think. No worries. I have enough drama irl, don't need any on COD. Hope to see you in the game.

Zipp0

[Zipp0]

Also, I am sure there are others who will attest that I NEVER say anything racist - EVER. This really has me angry/upset. I have donated before and was considering doing so again, but this sort of nonsense is a real turn-off.

I understand and let me assure you we respect free speech - anything legal in the US is OK. Often players vent off and not everything is to be taken seriously, also what someone perceives as racist may be perfectly OK in some other region and culture. So the rules are simple - legal in the US = OK. Players can get banned for excessive spam, key-bind spam or real-life threats - if anyone gets banned merely for speech, let me know. Admins should know that too.

Hey dyn - I think I just got booted for saying literally "F THAT CHOPPER" after shooting down a helicopter. I didn't even say "Fuck that chopper"!! I did accidentally have caps lock on.... so maybe auto-kick for the caps? Although I doubt that. I got no warning...... nothing. Just booted.

[fallout]

Zipp0

Using extremely vulgar and racist language and telling people to STFU

I'll lay odds there's more to that story than your leading us to believe. I myself have a record of you
uttering a racist remark in the past not to mention your constant use of the F bomb that I've kicked
you for in the past. Stop the sniveling and whining and gtfu and maybe you won't get kicked.

[Zipp0]

Zipp0

Using extremely vulgar and racist language and telling people to STFU

I'll lay odds there's more to that story than your leading us to believe. I myself have a record of you
uttering a racist remark in the past not to mention your constant use of the F bomb that I've kicked
you for in the past. Stop the sniveling and whining and gtfu and maybe you won't get kicked.

What is your record of my racist remark? I am not a racist, so I am very curious. Not wise to throw around accusations of racism that are untrue.

[dyn]

Let me repeat it:
we respect free speech - anything legal in the US is OK. Often players vent off and not everything is to be taken seriously, also what someone perceives as racist may be perfectly OK in some other region and culture. So the rules are simple - legal in the US = OK

So, 'FUCK' (many it) or occasional perceived racist remark shouldn't be a reason to ban players. There is literally hundreds of players saying 'fuck' now and then. Spam, repeated insults, threats = ban, but other stuff is more or less fine.

Perhaps there was some misunderstanding and it should be resolved now.

Just for info, here is a nice article on this theme from the official US govt site:
Why protect offensive speech?
https://share.america.gov/why-protect-offensive-speech/

[SD]

https://vogonhq.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2629

Fuck indeed.

[sc.Toxic|A]

lol..Good Video!!